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thank you for joining us tonight. i'm jim sciuto, i'll be back again tomorrow night. and "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. breaking news tonight with new polls show how narrowing the gap with donald trump, dr. ben carson has taken a swipe at him. a soft-spoken swipe it is. but unmistakable. listen to how dr. carson answered the question moments ago about what sets him apart from the gop front-runner. >> the biggest thing is that i realize where my successes come from. and i don't in any way deny my faith in god. and i think -- that probably is a big difference. >> he made the remarks at a campaign rally in orange county,
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california. cnn's correspondent is traveling with him now. you were there when ben carson said this. did the crowd interpret it as a jab at donald trump? >> well, this actually took place backstage, just before the big event where there are thousand of people here to see ben carson. talking to the media. he was asked what the distinction was between him and donald trump. this is the first time he has really taken the gloves off. it was fascinating that he went after trump as inauthentic on religion. i think we have a little more of the sound here. by humility and the fear of the lord. our riches, and honor and life. that's a big part of who i am. humility and the fear of the lord. i don't get that impression with him. maybe i'm wrong. i don't get that impression. >> it is striking. up until this point, trump and
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carson they haven't taken jabs at each other. >> right, and it's just so striking that ben carson perhaps the most mild-mannered candidate in the race would go after trump in this way when so many other republican candidates have been afraid to go after him to. go after him on something like religion, there is an opportunity here for ben cars on to consolidate evangelicals behind him. a lot of people i talked to in the crowd here, were feeling like trump was inauthentic in that way. they don't like his answers on religion so far. there may bean opportunity for carson here. >> interesting. this is something rick perry tried. has the not worked out very well for rick perry if you look at the poll numbers. appreciate you booing with eing. donald trump, at a big washington rally today. political bromance with senator cruz, he, senator cruz and palin speaking out against the deal for a vote in a couple dates.
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late word on gop infighting surrounding it. all of that and more from dana bash joining us at the center. >> i'm told it was ted cruz's idea to invite his competitor. he know where donald trump goes, goes the spotlight. one of the many reasons why cruz has made unusual moves to cozy up to trump. here is something you deon't se every day. competitors for the white house embracing, literally. but donald trump and ted cruz hugging it out is actually just taking their budding political bromance to the next step. >>-up and senator cruz seem to have an unusual relationship when it comes to republican competitors, why do you have this bromance. ? >> it is a little bit of a romance. he backed me. >> reporter: trump is right. he is the one who made the first move. while other republican 2016 candidates slammed the billionaire front-runner, cruz courts him. >> there are not a lot of
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people. >> reporter: the texas senator flew to new york for a private meeting. as a result, trump follows the trump rule. say nice things about him. he will do the same. >> senator cruz has been so nice to me. i can't hit him. >> reporter: why have you been so loving towards donald trump? >> i like donald trump. and i'm glad that he has energized and excited a lot of people. i also think donald trump has been tremendously beneficial to our campaign. >> mexico sends its people. >> reporter: because cruz says, trump has forcinged the gop 2016 debate on illegal immigration, a topic he cares about. >> senator cruz. >> reporter: at first blush, cruz's trump love seems self-defeating since trump is drawing anti-washington g.o.p. voters who may otherwise support cruz. you were the one supposed to be the outsider. how is he not taking votes because people say, oh, there is an outsider, donald trump, not the guy with senator in front of his name? >> i am a big fan that every
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battle is won before it is fought. won by choosing the terrain. framing the argument. >> you are fight on the same terrain. >> no, right now the people supporting donald trump are looking for some one who will stand up to the washington cartel. i have a proven record of doing so. >> cruz has a more practical reason for liking trump. he gets attention. >> i want to thank my friend, donald trump for joining us today. >> reporter: it is why cruz invited trump to the rally opposing the iran deal. >> he asked me to get along here, come along. and i guess he figured we'd get a big crowd. we have gotten a big crowd. >> reporter: trump's celebrity helped him in the last gop debate. >> donald has an incredible ability to attract attention. 24 million americans watched the first debate. millions of eyeballs watched that debate. our national support doubled. >> reporter: unlike other candidates. cruz has a lot of cash for his campaign and super pac. the hope, if trump fizzles his supporters will return cruz's love.
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that's where trump draws the line in the reunusual relationship. >> if it ever came to it and you dropped out for whatever reason would you encourage supporters to support ted cruz. >> i'm everdropping onever drop. >> how can ted cruz be in the bromance? cruz benefits if trump gets out of the race. which doesn't seem likely. >> it doesn't. my understanding to answer that. cruz's feeling in iowa, south carolina where there are a lot of hard core voters there may be enough cruz voters he can do well with those who look trump's message but aren't sure he is a real conservative. cruz doesn't criticize trump. but if you listen carefully, he says he is a consistent conservative. seems to bea bit of a dog whistle if you will. and then, if you kind of notice, cruz's quietly been campaigning in southern states. states that may help him sustain
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his campaign if you look at the long road and political calendar. but as you say at the end of the day, there is only one man likely to be standing in the sort of anti-establishment conservative lane of the field. it's, hard to see, both of them surviving. but, cruz is just kind of, going the distance. to try to bank on fact that maybe trump will implode at one point. maybe, the fact that he was so nice to him could benefit him in the end. >> dana. pres appreciate the reporting. former communications director for senator ted cruz. trump supporter and former reagan white house political director. also joining us, republican strategist, rick wilson. amanda, trump said he has been hoping for, for dr. cars on to realto -- dr. carson to hit him at some point. in his words he likes to counterpunch. what dr. cars on said, raising questions about his faith. was that the hit that trump was waiting for? >> it happened regardless how it came.
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i am really disappointed by the decision that ben carson madeti. to say my faith is bigger than yours. it doesn't play right. and here's the thing. i think, september is going to be a huge month for christian voters to decide which candidate they may back. they have the fight over iranian deal, planned parenthood, marriage. it is happening, the candidate other than engaging on the three, use is an enormous mistake. >> i want to play what dr. carson said, the second part when he was following up his initial remark. >> -- by humility and the fear of the lord. our riches, our honor, our life. that's a very big part of who i am. humility and the fear of the lord. i don't get that impression with
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him. maybe i am wrong. i've don't get that impression. rick you, have been a vocal critic of donald trump all along. what do you thing of carson's remarks. rick perry tried this a while ago. in much harsher language. a frontal assault. and didn't have the impact he wanted. this draws out something about the possession of the two men as the outsider, primary outsider candidates right now. trump is the id of the republican party. carson is the super ego. the aspirational image of people, so accomplished, so mindful. and obviously he is very deeply driven by and imbued in his faith. people respect that. people find that to be a very appealing characteristic about ben carson. the fact that he is drawn a c contrast with donald trump.
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donald trump's admiration of the bible is about a millimeter thick. and his professed faith seems to be something that is really sort of perked up during election season. i think ben carson drauk twing contrast was not in a hostile or nasty way. it emphasizes ben carson's faith is part of his back ground and upbringing and huge part of his success. that is something he is drawing a can trast in a way. he feels very comfortable doing. as always, ben carson's affect is so calm, so steady, that even, even something that is a pretty hard hit doesn't come across in the same way. perhaps someone from a more traditional political mean would have done. >> do you agree? ben carson, driving tremendous good will among republican voters right now. the way he went about this. was different than rick perry did. do you see trump responding, kind of with, guns ablazing. he might. sure. sure. he might. he does do the counter punch.
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i would also say, there was a "washington post" poll last month. that showed donald trump ahead of the field by six points. when it came to evangelicals. so he has considerable support in the evangelical movement. i would say this about evangelicals. i say this about every individual voting group. they're more than just that individual concern. e ven gevangelicals have mortga need jobs, concerned about iranian nuclears, concerned about illegal immigration. they're not one dimensional figures. i think at the end of the day. the winner of this will be somebody who appeals across the board to a wide selection of people who have common concerns, not just one particular individual concern. >> wreck, i guess donald trump could, could respond in a way that would actually win on two fronts. one he could stay he believes in turning the other cheek. which would not only respond to carson but also satisfy those who wanted a bible passage from
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him. which i think he had not yet -- or bible reference he hadn't yet given him. >> well, look. the "art of the deal" is not part of the apothecary even. trump is going to find his supporters are going to, carry the attack to ben carson. this is the sort of thing that seems to happen now. he is galvanized, an active, vocal set of supporters. who've the minute someone comes up against trump they become enathma, history's great saes portsaes -- greatest supporter, has to be destroyed. he and carson are the two primary outsiders now benefiting from anti-establishment, anti-washington mood. >> amanda -- >> one thing, anderson. >> sorry, jeff. go ahead. >> one other thing, anderson. historically when we see this kind of things between a leading
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candidates and a primary situation, sometimes they wind up on the same ticket. kennedy/johnson. reagan/bush. that sort of thing. obama, well he didn't pick hillary clinton. she wound up as secretary of state. you know there is, there is more smoke here sometimes than actual fire. at the end of day. they all do manage to got together as a rule. a >> amanda, the rally, anti-nuclear deal, donald trump and ted cruz. who is benefiting the most from it, trump and cruz? >> an interesting question. both get so much benefit. ted cruz has appeal. getting donald trump there, getting cameras. showing he can place nice with presidential candidates which is huge for both of them. also, donald trump gets the benefit of engaging in a legislative issue and he is not an elected member of office. frankly, i would look to see more presidential candidates get engaged on the actual mechanical
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fights against the obama administration that are currently being fought in the united states capitol. you see a lot of people aiming their fire at senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, john boehner for political benefit. when it comes to the nuts and bolts of things. i would look to see more get in the action. so i think it is very ben fshl to the both of them. give a slight advantage to ted cruz. >> jeffrey, is there a risk in this? you see them as a natural team. is there a risk they take votes away from each other? yes. yes, i think, there is a potential here for an alliance of sort. and i would -- call your attention in, in -- october tough 2013, american spectator for which i am contributing editor had their big fall dinner in washington. the two attractions by chance were donald trump and ted cruz. it was pretty clear that they really hit it off. and, you know their separate speeches are on youtube.
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there they are ribbing each other about different things, donald trump giving ted cruz encouragement, ted cruz is talking a game show, "win donald trump's money." you know it was quite a, quite a remarkable thing. now that you look back on it. i think that was the beginning of, what they might say is a beautiful relationship, friendship. >> rick, before we go. jeb bush did an imtaitation on stephen colbert's show. >> i will turn the national mall into a national golf course. china will respect that. i prom tice put meat loaf on the $10 bill and give lil john a cabinet possession that will send the message this great nation will never turn down for one. >> supporters of jeb bush would say anything that showcases job bush in a different light, especially at trump's expense is a good thing. in your view, i mean is this kind of thing, does it matter?
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>> look, i think the fact that jeb bush was on tv last night where stephen colbert captured 6.5 million viewers matters. a venue that, you would be a fool not to take advantage of. if you are any presidential candidate. especially, since, the other candidates aren't like donald from. they can't snap their fingers and cause cameras to appear wherever they are. take advantage of those things. you know, i have to tell you it strikes me very funny that the lines colbert and writers put together there. you could imagine the same things coming out donald trump's mouth with no sense of irony whatsoever. >> interesting point. >> naturally, not scripted. >> yeah, naturally, sure. >> rick, jeffrey amanda. thank you. how donald trump sees the rest of the world. why his view has resonated with republican voters. whether or not he can turn night presidential foreign policy. breaking news in the shooting death of an illinois police
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officer. three suspects at large. now late word on how investigators believe the lieutenant died. at least, where, where the investigation is leading at this stage.
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once again, gop
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front-runner, donald trump takes center stage speaking out against the nuclear deal with iran. he is doing them with sharp elbows and big talk. >> we will have so much winning if i get elected, that you may get bored with winning. believe me. i agree. you will never get bored with winning. we never get bored. >> he says he will strike a different tone if elected and will surround himself with advisers on global affairs. now, pure, uncut, 100 proof donald trump. tom foreman shows us trump's world in his words. >> they rip us off. they take our money. they make us look like fools. >> reporter: donald trump talking about iran and the nuclear deal, but he might have been talking about any number of countries. on the trail he is relentlessly describing the world. >> they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. >> reporter: his comments about
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undocumented mexican immigrants made headlines recently. last year he was railing against russia. >> i mean putin has eaten obama's lunch therefore our lunch for a long period of time. >> reporter: in iraq and syria, he are ggued for bombing of ass held by isis. >> i would bomb the hell out of the oil fields. i wouldn't send many troops. you won't need them by the time i got finished. >> reporter: he favors renewed relations with cuba though he insists there and everywhere else the u.s. is making bad deals. >> i know the best negotiators in the world. one for each country. believe me we well do very, very well. >> reporter: of course there is china. trump accused china of shady trade deals, manipulating currency and making off with iraqi oil so many times. an edited video has become an internet sensation. >> china. >> china. >> china. >> china. >> mind you he is not really blaming the chinese. >> they have tough smart people. it's time that we have tough,
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smart people. because we're not going to be able to go much longer the way well are going right now. >> reporter: still the depth of trump's knowledge is unclear. he says he follows many military entanglements by watching tv. when a radio host asked him about an elite iranian military force, he seemed confused. >> he runs the quuchds force thousands. trump later said he misheard. that certainly did not help answer a basic question lingering over his campaign. for as much as trump says about foreign affairs, how much does he really know? anderson. >> thank you very much. let's dig deeper now, cnn's david gergen, gloria borger. >> donald trump talks about taking the oil from iraq,
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bringing in oil companies, soldiers, surround the oil fields take the oil and bomb the hell out of isis. every military official i have talked to or former military official said this doesn't make any sense. this is completely. l yet you look at the polls. and gop voters in iowa, when asked who can handle terrorism better they say donald trump. >> because he is entertaining. you listen to donald trump. he is really a bully. that's what he is. a bully who says things he thinks sound great as if he were standing on a street corner with his crew. people who don't examine what he is saying they think that sound great too if he stood up. and said the answer for isis. let's just turn the parts of syria to glass. bomb them flat. would that be good policy. a lot of people would say, hell yeah, that is a real good idea. because people want the problems, the many problems in the world to be solved. he is saying, i can solve them. look at me.
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i'm rich. i can do it. it is essentially a reality tv approach to foreign policy. >> david, do you agree. in the hugh hewitt interview, trump said he would find his douglas macarthur in the pack, surround himself with advisers. some reports advisers are reluctant to admit they might be talking to trmp ing ting to tru. >> his appeal is much more than entertainment in foreign policy. the muscularity and strength. the rise of donald trump is an indictment of the political class, politics and some of us in the media. people are so fed up. they see so much incompetence they would rather take someone or willing to take someone who is entertaining and exudes strength as opposed to somebody who is incompetent. i do think the standard by which
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he is booing judge e being judgc will go up. he cannot go on like this if he wants to win the whole thing. i think he does. >> recent poll in iowa, voters asked, who would do the best job handling terrorism, overwhelmly, donald trump. whether or not he knows the difference between hezbollah and hamas, quds/kurds. he does seem to be a candidate gop voters in iowa trust to handle such thing. >> right now it is not about his policy statements. because there aren't many. more of a feeling as david was saying. this is somebody who is impatient. a lot of americans are. who is angry. a lot of americans are. and they believe who has had some success. they rate him higher on the economy than handling terrorism. they like how he sounds. after we have had a president, has been low key, and then you have donald trump who is anything but low key. and he speaks to, to people's
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anger and their impatience about what is going on in washington, or what is not happening in washington. he is the outsider. and that has appeal. by the way, not only in the republican party this year, but you look at bernie sanders, and the way he is showing against him ear clint hillary clinton. same if in the democratic party. >> chris, it is interesting if you look at the gop field. arguably, lindsay graham probably has the most actual hands-on experience in the military long time in the reserves i believe. but he has obviously been in senate for a long time. dealt with foreign policy, use. yet he know it doing well at all in the polling. >> no, that tough guy, bully attitude that is all part of the same picture with trump. which is i'm tough. i'm really going to drive hard bargains. i'm going to make tough deals. i am going to fire people. you are fired. why doesn't he say to the president of russia, your's fired. that kind of tone. people like it. david is right not just
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entertainment. this is deadly serious stuff. we are a long way from the election. >> david you worked in the white house for democratic and republican presidents to. donald trump's point. well, look i may not know the details on something. but i hire really good people who do. i will surround myself with a really smart team. that's how i am going to deal with this stuff. and you know when push comes to shove. i will, i will wade in and learn better than abode. is that a valid argument. there have been presidents accused of not being detail oriented. >> that is true, anderson. here is the deal. that can work on many occasions. but the problem with being president, dilemma of being president is that the decisions that come to you are often like a 50/49, your advisers are split. harry truman trying to figure out whether to recognize israel. split in his administration. he was the one who had to make the choice. made the right choice he was
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deeply schooled in 2,000 years of history in the middle east. donald trump can'simpt say i wi bring advisers. advisers will be divided on tough questions they come to a president. >> it is interesting, to dave aid point. foreign policy, the president can exert probably the most unilateral action. >> uh-huh. he can. yeah, he can. but, presidents will tell you that congress has too much authority. and i think when you talk to voters, what they say is you know we like this idea of checks and balances. we like the idea that congress has war powers act. that congress can have some input into an iran nuclear deal. so, i think that with somebody for example like donald trump. i think voters might say to themselves. you know what? if you have donald trump as president, and you have a congress, congress can provide a check. i don't think we are anywhere near there yet.
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in the end. last time around. people voted for a president without much experience. barack obama when he ran in 2008. now we seem to be moving in a completely dif respeferent dire. not only do we want some body with no experience we want some body outside the political system. whether that will shift as we move into the primaries we will have to see. but the zeitgeist is not dynastic candidates, it is something different >> thank you. >> quick programming note. tomorrow here on cnn, donald trump will be a guest on "new day" at 7:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. eastern, jeb bush will talk with jake tapper. on "the lead." >> the late county coroner released nu ed new information. plus, breaking news in arizona where another car has been hit by a bullet. just might be the one.
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breaking news in the investigation of an illinois police officer killed in a remote resort area north of
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chicago. joe gliniewicz was found dead shortly after telling a dispatcher he was in pursuit of three men. the killing sparked a manhunt that so far has not led to arrests. to night new information from the coroner. cnn's rosa flores joins me with that. we may be close to learning how the officer died. correct. >> yes, anderson, "the chicago tribune" quoting the lake county coroner saying lieutenant gliniewicz died from one devastating gunshot. now he is not expanding on where this gunshot actually hit the officer, tif there were other wound or manner of death. the coroner being very careful saying he doesn't know where that gunshot came from. where that bullet came from. and saying "right now all unnatural deaths are up for suggestion." that means homicide, suicide, accident, undetermined. i have called the coroner repeatedly. he has not returned my phone calls.
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but i have got to say, anderson, in this particular case, both the coroner and investigators have been very tight-lipped about a lot of details in this investigation. >> there was dna that found at the scene that did not belong to this officer is that correct? >> that's correct. that information released yesterday. now i have got to give you some context here. from covering many, many crime scenes i can tell you a few things really stand out. first of all they were looking from the get-go for three suspects. that geographic search, door to door, with, you know, guns drawn. stopped very early, anderson. also, we have got information from commander falenco in charge of this investigation. during the press conference he corrects hifl semself in the pr conference calling it a murder then saying "i'm sorry, a killing." then you have got the surveillance videos they were talking about. that were so important to this investigation that had the three people of interest in them.
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well, after looking through them, after the fbi pieced all these videos together they said they lacked ooked at the three individuals spoke to them and they're no longer persons of interest. so a lot of different details stand out, anderson because of the lack of details that we are getting from authorities in this particular case. >> just finally they have not, the coroner didn't say or specify how close the gun would have been to the officer when the shot was fired. correct? >> absolutely right. in this article, in the coroner talking to "the chicago tribune," it pretty much just says that, there was one devastating gunshot wound. he doesn't get into the details as to where or how if there were other wounds on this police officer. how close perhaps in range the gunshot was fired. what we do know from investigators however is that the gun was found very close to the officer. that as much as they have told
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us so far. >> hmm. rosa flores. thank you. >> in arizona another bullet hit another car. another in a recent string. people e on edge. police trying to figure out if there is a pattern. stephanie elam joins us with the latest. what do you know, stephanie? >> when you look at this. talking 11 incidents in 11 days, anderson. we know eight have happened on an eight-block stretch on interstate 10 which runs right through the heart of phoenix. in that downtown area this has happened. amazingly no one has been majorly hurt or is dead. which is unbelievable when you see they're randomly shooting at cars just driving down this highway. there was one 13-year-old girl saturday hurt when the windshield broke. she had a cut on her right ear. treated at the scene. that is it. we know of the 11, eight of them have been on interstate 10. another three right nearby on two other related highways. still they're looking at this area. and trying to figure out who
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might be behind this. because the timing of all the shootings has been random. not happening at the same time every day. anderson. >> do we know if the same wecapn was used do they have any lead who might have done this? >> they do say they have evidence. they're keeping some card close to the vest. they've don't want to give out information that might tip off the person duke this when they're trying to find out who that person is. they do say they're looking into ballistics as well to try to figure that out. they also are looking into surveillance video may be around in the area. using that to scale it down. right now they do believe it is random because of the fact that all of the people who have been driving these vehicles have no connection to each other. they're saying there is nothing to link these people together. >> lastly, these incidents. multiple times over the course of the last couple weeks. just to be clear. authorities are not saying yes they're related. they're still investigating
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senate a? >> they're still investigating. this happened four hours ago. another at 11:00 in phoenix. this is happening. ongoing just this afternoon. that shows you this is something that they're trying to pin down. there is multiple organization whose are working with these officials to try to find out who this person is. they believe somebody knows something. they want people to get back to the police officials and let them know. >> or multiple people. stephanie elam, thank you. >> teenager thrown in jail and put on the sex offenders registry for having sex with a 14-year-old. a girl who admit she lied to him about her age. she told him he was of age. zach anderson's fate may be changing. an update on the case. i'll speak with zach anderson next.
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what did iran's supreme leader get in the nuclear deal? to start with, $100 billion. they keep their nuclear facilities and ballistic missiles. there won't be surprise anytime-anywhere inspections. and after ten years, restrictions are lifted and iran could build a nuclear weapon in two months.
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welcome back. major life changing update to aster we brought you last month. a judge vacated a sentence in indiana, a teenager who had consensual sex with an underaged girl who admitted she lied about her age. zach anderson sentenced to 25 years on the sex offender
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registry. i will speak with zach and his dad in a moment. first some background on the case. >> reporter: here's what happened. zach went on a racy dating app called hot or not. hoping to meet a girl. he did. they had sex. and that's when the problems began. how old did she say she was? >> she told me she was 17. >> reporter: she lied. she was 14. by law he had committed a sex crime. he was arrested. and convicted. now zach is on the same list of sex offenders as child molesters and pedophiles. his parents say that is a colossal mistake. when you heard those word that your son was a sex offender what was your reaction? >> it is a blatant lie. it's not true. it doesn't even fit our lifestyle, it doesn't fit how we
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raised our kids. >> reporter: even the girls' mother appeared in court. testifying that she didn't want zach labeled as a sex offender. because he is really is not. we also obtained this letter the girl in question gave zach's family. i am sorry i didn't tell you my age, she writes. it kills me every day knowing you are going through hell and i'm not. i want to be in trouble. and not you. did it ever enter your mind at any time that she could be underaged? >> no, not at all. >> was the sex consensual? >> yeah. yeah. >> reporter: even if the girl admits she lied about her age and the sex was consensual as she did in court, it is not a defense in the eye of current sex offender laws. and that's why the judge and prosecutor in zach's case didn't let him off the hook. judge dennis wily, angry that
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zach had used the internet to moot meet a girl. that seem to be part of our culture. meet, have sex, sayonara. totally inappropriate behavior. there is no excuse for this what soever. >> well that same judge has now vacated the sentence. a new judge will be in charge of the resentencing. zach anderson and his father lester join me. zach, the sentence being vacated. when you first heard the news what went through your mind? >> it was really good news. the sentence was vacated. i was going to be resentenced. i'm not on probation. nice to get become to how i was living before. >> lester, i can't imagine what this experience has been like for you and for the rest of your family. >> yeah, it's been pretty stressful to say the least. the whole thing started in january. pretty much.
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so we have been dealing with this for quite a while. a lot of ups and downs. >> zashch, couldn't own a smart phone, use the internet, talk to any one under 17, or live in your parents' home. how difficult has that been? >> it's hard. i am just now becoming an adult. i just turned 20. not being able to use a smartphone or internet. it was really hard. i am really good with computer. i have been building them. i know the ins and outs of them. it's really hard. taking it from technologically advanced to very, very simple. >> lester, the fact that this girl's mother defended your son in court, does it make it even more painful for you that even she couldn't influence the court? >> it definitely does. and to be honest even since the ruling in the last two days we have been in contact. she contacted us, both yesterday and today about the ruling.
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so, there is still contact with us. yeah, still hard to believe that, that that didn't have any influence on the decision. >> zach, i know the girl wrote a let tire you poll jazz i leter -- letter to you apologizing. did that give you comfort? >> i haven't been able to read the letter. for legal reasons i wasn't able to read it. the parts i caught from the news. it was kind of comforting. >> your son is not totally free from this. this is just the beginning of the next phase, right? >> that's correct. it is step one. we had to go through this process to even get, you know to a resentence or even start the appeal process. so, it's far from over definitely. >> what happens next? >> friday, we have a bond hearing at 1:00. the same judge that sentenced our son, even though we did get a new judge for, for our, sentence, we still have to appear before the same judge on friday. he is going to set the bond
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conditions. so that's, that's going to be an, that will be an interesting, just to see how those things go. >> we'll follow that. zach, lester. appreciate both of you being with us. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up. an update on the crisis in europe with refugees. throngs of syrians trying to find safety from violence. are thousand of the refugees about to show up in the united states? what john kerry said about that today. next. on the internet... of things. what we're recommending as your consultants... the new consultants are here. it's not just big data... it's bigger data. we're beta testing the new wearable interface...
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secretary of state john kerry said to date united states is committed to taking in more syrian refugees as hundred of thousand try to make it into europe. fresh images of desperation every day. in a turkish port, refugees cramming on to rubber boats, paying $1,300 to cross the ajayian sea to greece. there is this, hard to watch, harder to believe. hungarian camera woman can be seen kicking and tripping refugees, adults and children alike. >> reporter: a shocking video garnered attention from around the world as waves of desperate migrants sprint from a holding camp in hungary, a ka ra woman appears to trip a man running with his child in his arms.
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he falls to the ground on top of the boy and screams in disbelief. the woman also kicks other migrants as they run including a young girl. now the camera woman is out of a job. she was covering the flood of migrants for the far right station. it offers news from a nationalist perspective. in a statement, the station said the camera operator behavior was completely unacceptable. her employment will be terminated. the station did not disclose her identity. social media did. cnn cannot independently confirm her name. we are not identifying her. thousand took to a face book shame wall to criticize wlt man they believe is responsible. on twitter people vented jut rage with tweets, these people are struggling for a life. you have a life. yet this is what you do? shame on you. she is running for her life, another wrote. you are destroying her life and you are earning money for it. is she human? and, that photographer should be charged with assault.
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criminal act. criminal charges are indeed possible. there are reports hungary's opposition parties will pursue them which could bring a prison sentence of five years. the woman being shamed on lane has not commented. >> much more in our next hour. starting with very harsh word just coming to light in a rolling stone profile. donald trump quoted attacking the looks of his rival carly fiorina. working on my feet all day gave me pain here. in my lower back but now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts. now i get immediate relief from my foot pain. my lower back pain. find a machine at drscholls.com who knows, one of these kids just might be the one. to clean the oceans, to start a movement,
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